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For Allure, by Renee Jacques.

Here'due south what some people do when they find out that the last tube of their favorite lipstick has suddenly become discontinued: Have a cotton fiber swab and dig out every tiny scrap from the bottom of the tube, smear it on their lips, and savor that last bittersweet moment of lipstick bliss. Then in that location are the other people, the ones who spend hours scouring stores and online shops for every concluding tube, stashing them away in the back of their refrigerator to endeavor to concord on to that perfect shade for just a little while longer. These are the kind of people Daniel Adler, president and CEO of BuyMeBeauty, had in mind when he created his site.

For those who oasis't fallen into a discontinued-product spiral earlier, BuyMeBeauty is a popular website that helps users searching for elusive discontinued makeup products. "When nosotros started our website, we didn't call back information technology was going to be annihilation big, but then we noticed that people weren't buying just one lipstick or package of makeup-remover pads ― they were ownership a dozen," says Adler. "It became articulate that when a manufacturer discontinues a shade of an item, the customer is still looking for it."

Indeed, there are multitudes who collectively mourn the loss of discontinued products every yr. A cursory Cyberspace search yields dozens of articles lamenting the loss of a particular eyeliner, or that perfect beachy-waves spray, and there take been at least 2 major Reddit threads this year with users listing their "favorite product that's been discontinued." Ane standout on the threads is the Pond's Luminous Cease BB+ Cream. "I've never been this upset about a production being discontinued. It'southward merely my favorite base product ever," writes one fan. "I am just well-nigh to open up my last tube (my fourth!) and I'm so torn nigh it, because I could probably sell it for a decent profit since so many people love it, but I dear it and vesture it every twenty-four hours, then I just want to habiliment information technology." Correct now, the Pond's BB cream is simply for sale on Sears and Amazon from third-party sellers with a starting price of $49.50.

Customers as well grieve for the loss of sure items from popular production collections, such as the bright loose-pigment eye shadows in the L'Oréal Paris HiP Line. (The company still sells the HiP line only only sells the shadows in pressed course.) "The loose pigments were so good, and I miss existence able to become stuff like that at the drugstore," writes one Reddit user. "It was i of those really rich loose shadow formulas that balls upward a little and applies really flossy with great payoff." Adler sells the Fifty'Oréal Paris HiP Shocking Shadow Pigments on BuyMeBeauty for $viii a pop, and he says people are insanely grateful when they notice they can discover them in that location. "All of a sudden we are literally like saviors," he says. "You should see the emails we get from customers. It'due south amazing. They say things like, 'I tin can't believe you have this. You saved my life.'"

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But if the loose pigments in the HiP line were so pop, why would L'Oréal discontinue them? Adler thinks information technology'south all near what trends companies believe will yield demand. This makes information technology hard for his company to know what products to buy. He says they practice market research all the fourth dimension to figure out what trends major cosmetics companies are selling and what makeup trends BuyMeBeauty'south customers remain interested in, regardless of whether there are currently products on the market to satisfy it. "Planning is hard, considering we don't have the data that companies have on what is in demand, so over time, we've figured out certain things that work better for our customers," says Adler. "Right now in centre shadows, browns and nudes are really in. But we know our customers really desire those bright pigments in the L'Oréal Paris HiP line, and they tin't find them in the marketplace anymore. Essentially, we have to carry a lot of different things, so we have to buy a lot of items."

The reasons major makeup companies discontinue products is slightly murky. Every company I reached out to for insight (Maybelline New York, Revlon, Sephora, Pond'southward) declined to comment, with the exception of Laura Elkins, Chiliad.A.C.'s senior vice president of global and North American marketing, who says that every yr Grand.A.C. goes through an extensive process of examining its permanent collection, evaluating the demand and consumer feedback when deciding whether the visitor will discontinue a product or not. "A lot of the reason why we discontinue, just like any other brand out there, is that nosotros need to brand room for new innovations and new trends. We don't simply look at sales. We want to make sure we're maintaining our artistry and professional leadership around the world," says Elkins. "When we do discontinue an detail, we await at every unmarried SKU and evaluate information technology actually carefully. We wait to see if there'due south some new innovation that we're coming out with that could be a good replacement for it or if at that place's a new shade coming out that could accept the identify of it."

M.A.C. too has unlike categories for the release of certain products. Elkins explained that products are either released as "express life" collections, meaning they will stay on counters and on sale online for 4 to 8 weeks, or product collections are considered "permanent" and will remain in stores and online indefinitely. "The way we make these decisions is that if something is really trend- or fashion-focused, we might intentionally launch information technology as limited life. Just for a category like face and foundation that'southward less tendency focused, it will more probable be launched as a permanent production," says Elkins.

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Just there is a chance that express life or fifty-fifty discontinued products could come back and become permanent. "If we see something that we recollect might be a trend and then we launch it and we see that the trend is ongoing, nosotros might decide to bring it back again," says Elkins. "If we become a really strong response from our consumers or our M.A.C. artists [makeup artists enrolled in the M.A.C. Pro Membership Plan and artists who piece of work in the stores], if they absolutely love something and they can't live without it, we telephone call it 'the consumer has voted'—and in that example, we would consider bringing something that was limited life back permanently." Sometimes the visitor will hold special votes and opportunities for customers to reach out to the brand and let it know exactly which discontinued products they want back in stock. That's what happened with the pop Yard.A.C. lipstick Processed Yum-Yum. Back in 2012, M.A.C. held a Facebook vote where it listed xviii of its nearly popular discontinued products and had fans vote on which one to bring dorsum. The hot pink Processed Yum-Yum won. "It received some of the highest response from our consumers, so nosotros brought it back into our permanent lineup, and it's now i of our top-selling lipstick shades," says Elkins.

As much every bit Elkins says M.A.C. looks into the preferences of consumers (even though some really night or light foundation shades don't sell likewise in certain countries, she says, the make notwithstanding "keeps them in our lineup to brand sure we are supporting the needs of all ethnicities and skin types."), sales do play a major role in whether a product stays in the market or not.

Adler believes a lot of discontinuation has to do with scale. "They are huge brands, and they can afford to just throw stuff out there. They tin can't worry about people wanting a sure shade," says Adler. "It'due south a scale thing. Allow's say when they make a range of lipsticks, they make 20,000 of each shade, and they look at their research and they're fine with only selling 5,000 online. And the truth is, once it'south non in the store or online anymore, near women simply move on. It's just the ten percent who actually want it. They're assuming that xc pct are just going to movement on, and so it's ameliorate to scale that way." Elkins does say that it's important for M.A.C. to proceed new production rolling in every month, which ways older product needs to be taken out of production. "Office of our rationale in making these decisions is that nosotros are actually a unique brand in that we launch close to ninety collections globally a yr, and this enables usa to stay on height of trends in both fashion and pop culture. Information technology too gives our consumers a chance to meet something new every time," she says.

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Another reason a product may of a sudden be pulled off the marketplace—regardless of its popularity—is legal changes that prohibit a manufacturer from using a certain ingredient or a particular amount of an ingredient. Daneen Woolstrum, founder of the website Discontinued Beauty, says a lot of hair sprays were taken out of product afterwards the volatile organic compound (VOC) rate was regulated. "The VOC rate in hair sprays used to be 80 percent, merely now brands accept lowered information technology to around 50 per centum, and since they've lowered it, sprays now come up out more wet-feeling than dry," says Woolstrum. And then the sprays that nevertheless accept 80 percent VOC—similar items in the Sebastian and Matrix lines—have become highly prized on Woolstrum's site.

Because of the rarity of these items and the demand for specific formulas, Woolstrum takes extreme precaution with her discontinued products. She holds all of the products in a "6,000-square-foot warehouse that's temperature controlled" and packages the products very advisedly. "Nosotros make sure every item is individually packaged perfectly by taping it closed, then individually bubble-wrapping every particular, then packing information technology with packing peanuts in loftier-grade boxes," she says.

It'southward great that both Woolstrum and Adler are able to sell discontinued beauty products to the public, only if you can't discover your favorite lipstick or hair spray, how do they observe it? Both were cautious most giving away also many details—Woolstrum scours eBay and oft buys out salon owners' products if they are endmost shop, while Adler seems to work direct with manufacturers. "The manufacturers demand to unload product. They need to sell information technology, and that's a business concern for them, too. They all take sales channels where they are selling the excess goods," says Adler. "Then if information technology's something they don't want and they are looking to sell it, we are their customers for that product."

Overall, the most popular products people search for on BuyMeBeauty are lipsticks, blush, and mascara. "Mascara is very popular. The thing with mascara is that you utilize many more tubes throughout the twelvemonth than yous exercise lipstick. And once it's opened, after a couple months, you lot accept to start with a new one," says Adler. "We have people who purchase 12 mascaras, and they go through one a month. They just desire to make sure they have information technology. Or they buy 24 to brand sure they are proficient for the adjacent 2 years."

Woolstrum says i of the almost pop products on her site is the John Frieda Beach Blonde Ocean Waves Spray (we listed it as 1 of our about mourned products). "When they discontinued it, information technology started rising up to virtually $75 a bottle, and that was a drugstore item," says Woolstrum. Though the brand ultimately brought the product back under a new name, the original version is still a major seller. "I always find that there's an audience for every product out there. And people are die-hards—they want what they've always known works the best for their pilus."

One would call back that companies would scour sites similar BuyMeBeauty and Discontinued Dazzler to proceeds insight into which discontinued products people are clamoring for, just like Adler says, information technology's not generally a brand's priority. "It'south just not worth it for them. Sometimes they do come back out with 'throwback' and 'vintage' products, but usually they don't get it correct," says Adler. "It's funny, because in that location have been times when we come across a company release v 'vintage' lipsticks, and they don't get the correct shade. If they called us, we could have told them the exact 5 discontinued lipsticks that are in demand, but they don't have that data. They take the sales data for everything else, but we accept the discontinued data."

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